As part of Calcalist and Poalim Tech’s Growth+ project, Ofir Ehrlich, co-founder and CEO of Eon, spoke with Chen Markman, CEO of Avon AI, which develops a platform for managing and controlling AI agents in sensitive organizations.
The conversation was held as part of Calcalist and Poarim Tech’s “Growth+” project, now in its third year, a series of one-on-one meetings between founders of major Israeli technology companies and entrepreneurs of promising startups. Our goal is to provide advice, support, and practical tools on entrepreneurship, creativity, startup management, and building companies for growth.
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Ofir Ehrlich (left), Chen Markman
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Ofir, tell us about any early crises or challenges you encountered and what you learned from them that helped you start your entrepreneurial journey.
“The worst advice I received at the beginning of my entrepreneurial journey was, ‘Build a big business and the money will come.’ The question is: what is ‘big’, who defines it, and who measures me?” The answer is that you should always understand how you will be evaluated in the next step and guide your goals accordingly.
“First-time entrepreneurs often think the goal is to bring in every possible customer. But the investors who are expected to provide their next round of funding are interested in building a repeatable sales mechanism. Once you know how to sell, you need to know how to reproduce it. At my previous company, I made this mistake and didn’t emphasize it early enough. We came to investors and said, ‘We have great customers,’ but the real goal of a startup is to build something once and sell it over and over again.
“Another mistake has to do with customer selection. In one of my early companies, we sold to Israeli companies like Zapp, Walla, and Nana. When we approached American investors, they told us, ‘We don’t know these companies. Your customer base is not important to us.’ The bottom line is that you have to bring in people who are strongly business-oriented from the beginning.”
Chen, what is the biggest challenge you have faced this year?
“Selling to a large company as a small startup. This is a long and complex process, and trust is a key factor. Large companies that want to implement a product at a core, sensitive level prefer to buy from companies that they think will still be around in 10 years, meaning they won’t be sold or change direction unexpectedly.
“This challenge, and our ambition to sell internationally, is what we are most focused on right now.”
Ofir, what advice did you give Chen?
“I advised him to focus on the next milestone, usually the next round of funding, and work backwards from how investors value the company. It’s important to look at ‘metadata’ such as who the investors are, what markets they’re targeting and how much runway they have left. These factors are just as important as the technology itself.
“We also discussed the need to clearly articulate why your business will remain differentiated, not just today and tomorrow, but two to three years from now. In such a fast-moving environment, this is a huge challenge. That’s why you need to build a deep, wide, and defensible moat that will be very difficult for competitors to cross.”
What have you learned from each other?
Chen: “Ofir brings deep experience from building multiple companies, but this is new to me. His perspective on managing the process over time and working strategically with investors is something I have a lot to learn from.”
Ofir: “I learned from Chen a thoughtful approach to building a company in today’s environment. He and his team are still operating under tight budget constraints in emerging markets. It’s very impressive to see such a strong team adapt so quickly and be in a position to lead in a complex and crowded field in such a short period of time.”
Is there anything surprising you learned about each other?
Chen: “I’m always amazed at how small Israel is. We quickly realized that we share a lot of interconnectedness among military personnel. That’s one of the strengths of Israel’s high-tech technology: people know each other and are willing to help.”
Ofir: “This dynamic is very unique in Israel, and it’s one of the reasons why we can compete with Silicon Valley. There, people are more siled and don’t necessarily know each other or help each other. In Israel, everyone is connected in some way, whether through military service, school, mutual acquaintances, etc. That network is a huge advantage.”
Ofir Ehrlich’s Golden Advice
“Persistence is often more powerful than an idea or a business plan. Those entering this path must understand the level of personal sacrifice required to succeed. Otherwise, it remains just a game.”
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